Does Brahmin Bashing really deserve its due?


Those who historically murdered, looted, raped and pillaged and destroyed are today forgiven in modern India in the name of forgetting the past. What’s more those who destroyed our cultural heritage, universities of cosmic wisdom and architectural wonders are provided with all luxuries and comforts in India. But Brahmins, who historically dedicated their lives for the sake of dharma and the welfare of the society, are still persecuted in modern India for their falsely alleged sins of the past.

Indian Brahmins, we are taught by the modern historians, have been oppressing the lower caste population in India. Brahmins are described as cunning, parasitic exploiters and creators of the iniquitous caste system. The theory of “5000 years of Brahmin oppression” is used to include every other caste in the backward classes list and religion, provide them unrestrained reservation, and justify that.

ved vyasThis story is repeated so loudly and so frequently that it is also treated as the truth. Much scholarship and intellectual labor was put into this thesis before it acquired its present momentum and currency. Anti-Brahmanism was a construct of the last two centuries.

They say Brahmins never allowed others to read and write. The word “Brahmin” reminds everyone of arrogant, dis-respective, communal and abusive extremists who whip the lower caste people or dalits till they die. That’s a vivid picture that paints your mind when you hear that word. The anti-Brahmin movement gained momentum when leftists, priests and religious leaders from hostile religions, separatists and casteists of different hues took this from Britishers.

Academia has always held the position that Brahmins exploited and continue to exploit everyone else, that they authored the Hindu scriptures just to ensure their own highest position in the social hierarchy, and that they are responsible for so many problems in India.

But these arguments lack historical validity and logical consistency. It is merely a case of “repeat a lie a hundred times and it will become the truth”.

Let’s think without any inhibitions and conditions. Make your intelligence and thinking unbiased and open to accept the reality. Let’s look at real facts founded upon truth. Should we lend our thinking facility to others?

If you have open mind and if you can think with clarity and logically, you would understand that 95% of Brahmins were innocents and gentle. It is amazing to see that how fiction can become truth in course of time. You don’t need big brain to make out that anti-Brahmin story was planned and planted by hostile religious invaders, colonialist and missionaries of conversion and by politicians to keep the public blind and at the same time rob Indians off everything.

The fact is that Brahmins were neither rich nor powerful at any point of time in history. They are not the Samurais of India. Every animal in the forest wants to hunt deer and eat them. The Indian Brahmins are like deer (stag) in the forest. Indian Brahmin community has become like Jews of Nazi times. Is this acceptable? The destitution of Hindu Brahmins has moved none, not even the parties known for Hindu sympathy.

For many past centuries, mostly Christians and Muslims were ruling India. Do we have to blame Brahmins for everything that went wrong in India? Brahmins have never ruled India.

Brahmins were always poor class! They never ruled India!

brahminCan you quote any historical evidence to prove that Brahmins were kings or ruled any Indian kingdom? (Chanakya had helped Chandragupta Maurya to build a united India. After becoming the emperor of India, Chandragupta fell at the feet of Chanakya and requested him to be Rajaguru and stay in the palace with all luxuries. Chanakya’s reply: ” I am a Brahmin. My karma is to teach students and live on what they get by the way of begging. So I am going back to my village.”)

Can you find any single instance or story of rich Brahmins in history or in the mythology (purana)? Which purana mentions about a rich Brahmin? The story of Sudama (Kuchela), the poor Brahmin, is a well-known episode from Lord Krishna’s life. Incidentally, Krishna (the most popular deity of Hindus) belonged to the Yadava sub-caste. The Yadavas are currently enumerated amongst the Other Backward Castes (OBCs) in India.

If Brahmins were as arrogant as they picturised to be, how come they worship Gods from lower caste? Lord Shiva (Highest Hindu God) is often termed as a Kirata in the Puranas. The Kiratas would currently fall in the Scheduled Tribes (ST) category in modern India. Krishna (see above paragraph) was an OBC.

To be able to oppress others requires positions of power. The Brahmin’s traditional occupation was that of temple priest or purohit officiating religious functions. Their sole income was Biksha (alms) given by the land-lords (non- Brahmins). And another section of Brahmins were teachers (guru) without salary. Were those the most powerful positions?

And have you forgotten the term: ‘Garib Brahmin’ (=Poor Brahmin). Pick up any Indian story book, you will see that term quoted as a virtue. The highest stature of the society was occupied by the Brahmin ascetics and their only way of survival was alms given by people. [Of course there are exceptions, but it cannot be denied that poor Brahmins were honored. Brahmins were asked to live at a minimum and devote themselves to pursue knowledge. Ref: Alvin Toffler, an American writer and futurist, “Hinduism propagated poverty as a virtue.”]

As a matter of fact, most of the oppression of dalits (lower caste Hindus) was committed by the land-owning class (Zamindars) and not by Brahmins. OBCs also oppressed the dalits. But Brahmins became the scapegoat.

Do you know the priestly class among Brahmins is only less 20% of Brahmin population? Some of them might have been greedy or villains, as the priests or clergy in any other community/religion. (However, in the small state of Kerala, Namboodiri Brahmins were rich due to a different socio-political system.) But they never had the power that clergy of other religions enjoy.

Nobody asked non-Brahmins not to read. Brahmins by and large are in pursuit of knowledge. This made them powerful (not in material way). This stems jealousy among others. Whose fault is it anyway?

If the reading and writing was confined to Brahmins or if education were open only to the Brahmins then how do you have Valmiki composing Ramayana or Thiruvalluvar composing Thirukkural? Or the numerous works on bhakti by non-Brahmin bhakti saints etc? Brahmins never prevented others from learning. Please note that Ved Vyas who edited four vedas and wrote Mahabharata was born to a fisher-woman.

Even if you look at people Vashishtha, Valmiki, Krishna, Rama, Buddha, Mahavira, Tulsidas, Kabir, Vivekananda none of them were Brahmins. Are these not the people whose teachings we consider most valuable? If none of them were Brahmins why cry so much about Brahmin didn’t allow you to learn?

The most powerful of the dharma shaastra is the Manusmriti written by Manu. It is the only scripture that gives Brahmins a high status. But Manu was not a Brahmin – he was a Kshatriya. Gita, that describes caste system, was written by Vyasa, who was born to a backward caste fisherwoman. All ancient literature gives highest position to Brahmins, because of the virtue and ethics they upheld.

Brahmins were the seat of non-violence!

The poor hapless Brahmins were beheaded by Arabian invaders, crucified in Goa by the Portuguese Inquisition, vilified by British missionaries, and morally crucified today by their own brothers and sisters. Did anybody fight back?

Mohammad Bin Qasim Hindu HolocaustAurangzeb massacred 150,000 Brahmins and their families in Benares, Ganga ghat, Haridwar, etc…He made a mountain of skulls of the Hindu Brahmins and their children which was visible from 10 miles away. Aurangzeb has gone on record, making a pile of Brahmin “janeoos” (holy thread) and making a bonfire of them (after decapitating innocent Hindu Brahmins who refused to convert to Islam. Did any Brahmin fight back?

The brutal and fanatic barbarians from Portugese mercilessly persecuted and killed millions of Konkani Brahmins who refused to get converted, in Konkan-Goa. Can you show me a single example of a G.S. Brahmin killing a Portuguese?

(When the Portuguese came to India, St. Xavier wrote to the king of Portugal, his patron, “If there were no Brahmins, all pagans would be converted to our faith.” He hated them with a hatred that evangelists alone are capable of. He called them a “most perverse people.” Brahmins became a persecuted people. Thousands of Konkani Brahmins (Gaud Saraswat Brahmins) were persecuted and left Goa. They lost everything. Was there any G.S. Brahmin to fight back?)

The foreign invaders killed thousands and thousands of – Sarawat Brahmins – in Kashmir and Gandhara desa-regions-(part of today’s Afghan-Pakistan included) area. There is no sarawat Brahmin in these regions now. Can you quote a single incident of a saraswat killing an invader? Let alone killing, any violent act from sarawats?

(Pundits, the original inhabitants of Kashmir were tortured and driven out of their dwellings in Kashmir by Islamic militants trained in Pakistan. Genocide of Kashmiri Pundits has reached its climax with terrorism succeeding in ‘CLEANSING’ the valley of this ancient ethno-religious community. To escape persecution, more than 500,000 Kashmiri pundits had to leave their homes in the Valley and out of that; more than 50,000 are still languishing in uninhabitable refugee camps in Jammu and Delhi. Militants killed a lot of pundits and raped their women. Can you show me a single pundit who was involved in violence to fight back?)

Dr. Ambedkar, the father of Indian constitution, quoting Muslim historians, says the first act of religious zeal by Mohammad bin Qasim, the first Arab invader, was circumcision of Brahmins. “But, after they objected, he put all above the age of seventeen to death.” During invasions, forced conversions and Mughal periods, hundreds and thousands of Brahmins were beheaded. Can you show a single instance of a Brahmin killing a human being in any other religions?

Kolkata's rickshaw pullersIn early 19th century, Tipu Sultan’s army descended in Melkote on a Deepavali day and massacred 800 citizens, mostly of a sect known as Mandyam Iyengars. Sanskrit scholarship had been their forte. [To this day Melkote does not celebrate Deepavali]. That slaughter rendered Melkote a near ghost town. Its environmentally connected life was broken, kalyanis – water retaining structures – went to ruin, water shortage became endemic, and the hills went brown. Sanskrit lost a home.

In fact the non-violent Brahmins were pure Vegetarians and ate Satvik food which does not instigate them to do any crime. Brahmins never ever defended themselves.

Please reflect upon today’s pathetic state of Brahmins!

Did you also know that most rickshaw pullers in Banaras are Brahmins? Did you know that you also stumble upon a number of Brahmins working as coolies at Delhi’s railway stations? 50 per cent of Patel Nagar’s (New Delhi) rickshaw pullers are Brahmins. 75 per cent of domestic help and cooks in Andhra Pradesh are Brahmins. There is no reason to believe that the condition of Brahmins in other parts of the country is different. The percentage of Brahmins that live below poverty line is almost 60.

Thousands of Brahmins kids immigrating to US for jobs and they make good software engineers or scientists. Why didn’t the government of India think about such brain drain that too when India lacks manpower?

The per capita income of various communities as stated by the Karnataka state finance minister in the state assembly sometime back: Christians Indian Rupees (Rs) 1,562, Vokkaligas Rs 914, Muslims Rs 794, Scheduled castes Rs 680, Scheduled Tribes Rs 577 and Brahmins Rs 537.

At Tamil Nadu’s Ranganathaswamy Temple, a priest’s monthly salary was Rs 300 (Census Department studies) and a daily allowance of one measure of rice some time ago. The government staff at the same temple receive Rs 2,500 plus per month. But these facts have not modified the priests’ reputation as ‘haves’ and ‘exploiters.’

south indian priestsEven if we agree hypothetically what we had learnt under the colonial-missionary-communist aegis that Brahmins were oppressors, can a civilized society accept the way politicians behave with Brahmins? If your forefather had committed a crime why should you be punished?

Some Brahmins certainly would have manipulated caste system – just the way they do in political parties or religious groups. It may be true that the past is not a clean tale for entire Brahmin community. A minority Brahmins hands may have covered in blood as it can be. And yes, it’s a closed community who doesn’t allow easily outsiders inside their homes and don’t maintain any sort of interactive relationships outside the community.

But should we generalize the whole community for the mistakes done by a small section among them? Didn’t we forgive those foreign invaders from Arabia who killed hundreds and thousands of Indians and destroyed entire ancient culture and looted the rich India? (Remember India was the richest nation before foreign invaders reached here).

How long do we stereotype people? Why the hatred? An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind.

Being a Brahmin in India seems to be a double-edged sword. If a Brahmin succeeds, then his entire caste will be perceived as privileged and not in need of assistance. But if a Brahmin commits any aberrant deed, his faults will be projected onto his entire community, leading to more public condemnation of the entire Brahmin caste. The moment Brahmins were able to do something about it, the whole society turns and gangs up on them to prevent them from getting what they deserve claiming that Brahmins suppressed them in the past – as if as minuscule and non-violent a community as the Brahmins could have kept these horrors away from wealth and power or anything leading to it.

The world has a very short memory. The world has forgotten the contribution made by Brahmins to our society. It was not just learning Vedas, Maths, Astronomy and political science, but the sacrifice they have done for entire human kind by developing Ayurveda, Pranayama, Kamasutra, Natyasastra and Yoga.

If Brahmins were selfish, they would have patented all those things. If Brahmins were selfish, they would have put at least their byline below those thousands of ancient scripts. Brahmins sacrificed their life for the well being of human being with a single motto that: “Loka Samastha Sukino Bhavantu” (May all the beings in all the worlds be happy)

In turn, the world is trying to crucify them, for no fault of them.

The intended or actual meaning of Brahmin is one who has knowledge about Brahman, the ultimate and impersonal divine reality of the universe from which all being originates and to which it returns.

The very concept of Brahmanism is so noble and attractive that it is time that we decided to keep it above dispute. There have always been deliberate attempts to confuse the concept of Brahmanism with the caste of Brahmins in India.

Let us understand the simple fact that all members of the Brahmin caste are NOT Brahmins. Similarly, all Brahmins need not necessarily belong to the Brahmin caste.

There are four type of Brahmanism:

  1. Brahmana – one who is born to brahmana parents,
  2. Dvijaha – one who has received the samskaras starting from garbhadhana
  3. Vipraha – one who has received knowlege and
  4. Shrotriyaha – one who has all the above qualities.

Going by our classics and epics, it is very clear that the original Brahmins were definitely the ones that would command respect in any society. Brahmanism had a clear belief that the knowledge is power in the real sense. Brahmacharya which means a discipline followed with specific purpose of understanding the senses and thus taking control of the senses.

Brahmanism also wanted that the peace should be all encompassing, all creatures and all belief systems and all regions.

I am not supporting caste system, the real meaning of which is disappeared now. Our ancestors wanted to create a knowledge-based society in the name of Brahmin, that’s gone now. Alas! A huge majority of Brahmins turned to be non-vegetarians now. And I know in the name of Brahmanism some illiterate people who cannot pronounce rituals and mantras correctly performing pooja and other religious activities and making money only.

Modern Brahmins having abandoned their traditional way of life and being cut off from their traditions, suffer from an unjustified guilt complex and have swallowed this suppression propaganda uncritically. Caught between the greed of the masses, the unscrupulousness of the politicians and the malice of the real exploiters, they are persecuted mercilessly in modern India.

Are Brahmins not humans? Don’t Brahmins desire comforts, luxury and wealth for themselves and their near and dear ones, the way all people do?

~ Udaylal Pai


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  • well written, being a son of a temple priest i am proud to be a brahmin ,that a shocking truth that most of the people should understand it

    we are the main sufferers of ethnic cleansing in india

    • I am not a Brahmin but I like to say this. If there is any community on the surface of this earth that can claim to be vegetarians it’s the Brahmin community. We Indians, irrespective of race, caste or religion must be proud that our great ancestors to have created a vegetarian community. We as Indians MUST never lose this community. Reading through the above article by Udaylal Pai, it gives us more reasons to stop this bashing habit. We should instead encourage this community to regain its past glory (the Vedic way).

      We should also remember that many highly civilised communities have totally disappeared (ie the Mayan people). But somehow we have maintained this unique vegetarian-community. We should also get the United Nations to recognise the Brahmin community as a Heritage community … the only vegetarian community in the world.

    • yes u are soo true..we are the main sufferers….the other fellows just use us..for their needs our goodness will betaken as innocents thing,….such a waste …people out there

    • brother., you have told what actually happend and happenning right now.. but the fact is that many of our brahmins have no unity among us… and we did accepted the fals e propoganda and did not fight for that.. now it is time for all of us. to do so.. let us join hands together and make the supreme court of justice which stands for it’s word on constitution to do justice for the deprieved class of society i.e., brahmins for the past centuries and no government till now had taken any care regarding this issue and projected this community as a villain which is legally wrong and crime according to the constitution. i definitely hope that supreme will hear to our voices…

    • to get some facts right……….peshwas who took over maratha kingdom post fall ….belonged to brahmin class…so they were ruler once upon a time n killed too.
      priest being temple highest authority whose opinions are always counted….still could not make temple entry free for all esp in tamil nadu…..

      • Shankar
        I never accept your, in tamil nadu you any time visited villages, there also SC/ST can not enter the temple still, In my town there is one community (not bramins), in their street no one should not wear the slipers when we go inside the street. you tell me all these thing are happening by bramins. if you guyes still bash bramin community. this is sure world is full of surrended by water of 70 % and 30% only land. nature ie water will swallow the entire land sooner, who ever is doing wrong the bramins will born as animal in their next generation. that is sure

        • Shankar ur a god to tell this things?????
          Dame sure you and your family will suffered in future u told like that na……
          so change himself and think positive man…….

          • Hello Jagadeesan…are you cursing Shankar for voicing his opinion? This is one of the tricks that we brahmins used to play in olden days. Cursing. Shaap. No one can every become a brahmin by birth. There are many non brahmins who have become vegetarians and learnt the vedas and upanishads. I have see this at a veda pathashala run by my in-laws family in Pune. Let us stop all this caste non-sense and live like real brahmans before claiming to be brahmans.

            • may b u born b4 1900…read the entire article…all that shit tellers took birth after the currupt culture..by islamic n isai…u all r followers..bcoz u easily follow things like twiter n fb…having a A4 size colour paper doesnt show ur knowledge…their r not sayings…historical proove is their…what muslim did with brahmin..if d same thing a brahmin vl do with ur community..family..den what wud b ur reaction..vl u b silent….everything we r using in this world..all bcoz of brahmins…

            • You seem to be pretty Ignorant and I do not think you make any valuble contribution to anyone. You think Brahmins are the only ones who had put a Shaap on anyone ? It was actually any learned person that knows that art of self Defense who put Shaap on some one when they thought it appropriate. Even the Rishis did that. But not all Rishis are Brahmins. And those that did put Shaap on someone usually did not use weapons to kill that person. So, what is your contribution here. Absolutely Nothing. You are another Brain washed Garbage.

            • My previous comment on Shapp is directed at “Sai Prasad” ,Who is apparently Ignorant of anything. Seems to have been born without any Intellect.

            • Sai Prasad…..Just look at the comments above…It was Shankar who cursed the entire community!!!!!!!Is it right to curse the entire community??????So whatever can be done against, we have to keep quiet isn’t it…And should not voice against it!!!!!!!

      • Please dont talk about Tamil Nadu here… The Britishers used Tamils to the Max to create divide and rule… What you see now in Tamil Nadu was not the culture of Vedic India

      • Tamil People , as we all know are Brain washed . They have lost their Spirit and Soul. They had truly fallen for the Bullshit of Foreigners. Tamils did not even want the British to leave India. That is how Anti-Bharat Tamils are. So, do not worry about the Tamils, because they are already a lost cause and are converting to Christianity and Islam without ever even examining those religions with Intellect.Obviously this makes sense because Tamils have lost their Intellect to their Masters which is every Foreigner.

    • Being born in a Iyer family, Namaskarams. I consider myself as an individual of humanity and respect everyone without any discrimination after studying Upanishads and being with Chinmaya Mission. How can I help you? What are your needs? We can talk about brahmin bashing or the so called brahmins can help another. i have written quite a bit during the course of this discussion and I am willing to extend my support to anyone who needs…I look at it as a biksha that I am supposed to offer….

      • Proud of you Sir. Humility, quest for Spiritual Knowledge, Treating all creatures with kindness. These are the qualities that mark a real Brahman. Just by taking birth in a Brahman family does not make one a Brahman.

    • This article has many fallacies. I agree that many Brahmins were meek creatures focused on the well being of society at large. Brahmins in North India (where I have spent most of my time) certainly looked down upon the lower castes. In my growing up years I had a particularly fulminating Bihari Brahmin boy in a boarding school (because I had dribbled the soccer ball way too many times and made him appear incompetent at the game) cry out lout – “ball deta hai ki gayatri mantra padh ke tumko bhasma kar doon”? Thankfully my caste free growing up years had me laugh away this bout of anger. This was almost as if that janeo (sacred thread) and proprietorship over the gayatri mantra gave him the priviledge by birth to do an act as astounding as rending human beings into thin air. And I saw the same attitude reflect in giving a one word gaali – “Chamaar” – so much venom. Chamaar by the way is the name of what would be a low caste. The grudge I have is they created the structures that limited the wealth of knowledge of India to their own community, they built up the artefacts (the rationale and the theological underpinning) that resulted in the persecution of a majority of Hindu society and it was dictats by them that led to ossification of the society at large. I hope none of you would claim that the prevention of the entry of dalits into temples (which happens even today in some cases) – not allowing the faithfuls to see their own god – was done by the dalits themselves. I hope none of you believe that a low caste writer of Hindu scriptures would pen down verses in support of pouring lead into the ears of a Shudra if he were to somehow make the mistake of hearing the Vedas. Brahmins cannot escape responsibility for the injustices of the rulers when the ones giving divine sanction for such acts were the Brahmins. They cannot escape responsibility for the slavery of India for a thousand years because the societal structure created by them rendered a majority of Indians dummies in the line of protection of their lands. You cannot gloat over the constant quiescence in the face of killings of Brahmins by Aurangzeb or the Portuguese or other outsiders – or even worse the immense injustice that Hindu society delivered on a day to day basis. That cowardice was not Dharma. As holders of India’s knowledge it was a responsibility that you carried and it is just astounding how few protested over the millenia.

      With that said, nobody does any service to Hinduism by bashing Brahmins today. For the simple reason that despite all the defects of Brahminism and Varnashrama (and I consider that an artificial construct of Brahmins) there is a wealth of both knowledge and wisdom that India should be proud of, nurture and grow. And quite a bit of that contribution came from Brahmins.

      It is however necessary to understand that this entire caste system – whether you call it varnashrama or jati or whatever needs to give way to a view of Hinduism undivided by caste, region or color of one’s skin. That it did not dawn on the holders of knowledge that taking society towards justice and equality to all human beings is the supreme dharma. We all know this whole caste business was humbug and either that the insertion of varna into our holy texts was spurious (as with the Rig Veda) or that if it was genuine it is time now to revise those texts or throw them to the dustbins of history. And please, please – the clerical task of reading out mantras for pujas in temples does not need and never needed somebody to be born a Brahmin.. the barely read ought to have been able to do it. In today’s world, anybody who wants to, should be allowed to do it.

        • it’s been a long time but I will write a reply since someone did so as well to my note.

          Aah well.. the redoubt of the lazy. Wouldn’t you want to invoke the gods and make me an ant in the next life?

      • RD,
        as per you, brahmins “cannot gloat over the constant quiescence”!! you say that brahmins are spineless and cowards to revolt or retaliate even when faced with death! You have no compassion for the brahmins killed because you feel that they are cowards and if they died they deserved it. They created societal structures? even today my grandmother does not let me touch her without taking bath, does that mean i am untouchable? It is only to emphasize on cleanliness that she is doing it. It was the same way in the past too.. recently one of my malayalee christian friends was saying that lots of laborers from bangaladesh and Bihar have come to Kerala for construction work. Because of them theft has increased, diseases have increased (being non-hygienic), Kerala is no more a clean state but has become filthy!! Now, is she a brahmin? is she practicising untouchability? hers was a genuine concern. It was the same thing brahmins did many years back. In spite of not being rich or even having 3 meals a day Brahmins excercised cleanliness! You call that oppression! your personal experience with a boy just threatening you and someone calling you names has made you biased! even then you cannot say that they ganged up on you and beat you, because they wont and they never will! any kind of protest that they will do is fasting or self immolation. thanks for accepting that ‘quite a bit of contribution’ have come from Brahmins… you have the audacity to write all this because, none of us will do or say anything to whatever derogatory things you write! because we believe in fate and karma! Now that Brahmins are nowhere ‘powerful’ to do any kind of “oppression” what have you done to “take society towards justice and equality to all human beings”? dont worry, the vedas and shastras are already thrown into the dustbins because no one is learning them anymore…no relevance anywhere. just the ‘clerical task of repeating the mantra’ only is required ‘that a barely read ought to be able to do it’. in todays world when everything is free in the internet, i wonder how many of you read all the scriptures and tried to learn the things that the brahmins were till now denying them to learn!?!?! I dont know why i even bother to write a response to such a ‘know all’ as you!

        • “Gloat over the constant quiescence” – was a nod to Hindu society at large.
          Hindus are idiots to be so much more numerous and yet not have risen up against Aurangzeb’s depredations in Benares, Ghazni’s destruction of Somnath, the Moplah massacres or the day to day injustices within Hindu society. The social construct in Hindu society that does not let us be one in society and practices injustices within is responsible. As knowledge leaders and architects of social constructs in Hindu society, Brahmins have their share of responsibility.
          I will not comment on the rest but rest assured my views were formed as a result of studying in a Vedanta focused missionary school.

        • Excellent response and portrayal of reality. Thsnk you
          There was a time when any one can move upto be a Brahman by acquiring knowledge.Thank God for modern technology,a Brahmin does not have to depend on Govt jobs and quota. A Brahmin can becone5rich too as many have.
          Whereever mreitocracy rules,Brahmins succeed.
          Anti Brahmins in India think,lies releated over and over will become truth. Good luck!
          The Brahmins must unite for a better Bharat. Om Shanti.

      • Mr aiyar,there r contradictions in ur exampls,elaborate 2 of these,1)chamar ,normally sssocisted with a low intellect person not the caste,even a father calls his son by this when scolding, its the pesepectiv over interpretation but i agree this cud b Termed derogatory coz does refer to caste when not viewed in proper perspective n context,even bamhana,tilakdhari,janaiwa,choti,etc refering to brahmin used,ppl hv even notspared mahatma gandhi ,mazboori ka nam gandhi, 2)lead in to ear , in article itself it is said n vich is undeniable that most of holibooks of hindoos created by non brahmins,how can v say these n vedad wr not accessible,
        Bramhins themselves wr partof the structures,on basis of their intellect in sustaining ,preserving n extending human life,there is hardly any evidental events which wud subscribe to caste crearetion r propounded by brahmin as a part of the structure,
        their posn was similar to IAS in governc today whatevr in statute that they follow they dont creat it,article mostly acceptable to me

      • What you have seen now is “after the British & Muslim propaganda”. The Brahmins, who know the Brahman, are incapable of harrassing anyone.

        You don’t believe it? Then do an experiment. Just start asking this question to yourself – who are you? Be crazy for getting the answer to this question. When you get the answer, then we will talk, as by then, you would become a Brahmin.

        • I am sure you are right. Are there any brahmins who know the “brahman” today? Were there ever enough brahmins who know the “brahman”?
          If a Dalit were to know the brahman, you would come to the same conclusion, no?
          You do Hindus a disservice when you associate brahmins the caste with “brahman” the supposed human ideal.

      • all bihari are jokers .. specially who stays in bihar today and dint realised how castism destroyed bihar

      • see brother,a better handling of knowledge and wisdom needs certain evolution of genes and very valuable samskaras . otherwise if knowledge and wisdom is made available to everyone , even a casual a bad samskaric person or a ineligible samskaric people will try to compete and takeover the knowledge use it for their silly selfish reasons for money for power and poison great ancient knowledge with no experiencel knowledge at aalll. so what all brahmins hav done in the best interest of presrving ancient knowledge lik vedas ,jyothishya, natya , swara and many manyy more valuable heritages of hindu culture! so look at positiv side that brahmins hav confined knowledge to themselve to protect it giv it to only people who r having samskaras worth it! and u r talking varna system is the best system proof providing by the fact that genes evolve in genertions . if u study dna and genes study u will understand that varna system has complete scientific backing!

      • Plz don’t string pompous multiple character words. So many paras are at variance with each other. Read the article o sarkari Brahmin. So many queries you all are already there in the post. There were a few Brahmin born rulers, but briefly. Most rulers were of the kshatriya/shudr/ chamar/ any what so ever. Some excellent rulers, some debauchees.

    • Mishraji ! Had there been no class division in sanatan dharma , had everyone been taught to use weapons nobody could have dared to think of ethnic cleansing , who according to you is responsiblefor the four division of classes in hinduism ?

    • Totally True.
      Sadly, Bharat will.pay heavily for this when the rampant reservation system will push more Brahmins out of the
      country and Bharat will not have the brain power it needs
      to achieve its goals. The country will pay dearly. Sad.

  • Many thanks Mr. Udailal Paiji for your bold comments. During the present era of “sarvadharma-samabhawa” nobody dares to mention the facts clearly. So, I mentioned in my comment on FB that once we accept “Sanskrit” as our National Language then every Bharatiya (not Indian) will be able to know & accept our hidden treasure of our own Shastras & will not make the usual mistake to be under the misbelief that our Shastras, written & edited by Brahmins, are unscientific.

  • Government servants minimum salary in Tamil Nadu is above Rs-10000 p.m pensioners get
    Rs 4000 per month minimum

    • actually priests do not get that much. i asked a priest in a nearby temple about how much the government pays him… his response, Rs. 350 per month.

      • Generally in any temple in South India the offering of devotees put in the ‘hundi’ ( collection box) goes to the management ( trust, managing committee, muzrai dept etc.,) whereas the contribution made to the ‘mangalaarathi plate ‘ is the rightful share of the priest/s. I have noticed a few instances where the govt. employees posted at a temple have ill will towards the priests they urge the devotees to put the offerings ONLY IN THE HUNDI thereby depriving the priest of that income too.

        • that is not going to priest, that is going to government and government is spending to other religion not for hindu. what what i come to know. i am asking you simple question they bramin performing pooja for your happy ness to god, why not you put money on mangalaarathi plate.

    • What are trying to say? I know from my personal experience that temple priest get a pittance as salary in Tamil Nadu and in some cases it’s given once in 3 months or more, when the E.O visits the temple.

  • very well written with careful choice of words and this writting has given voice to all the major problems and disbelieves.major problem of cast system,in India,now a days is, its only used by polititians to make vote out of them.there are many other countries with religion/tribe based cast issues (eg. Africa),but now they have accepted both cristianity and tribe cultures at a time(Africa).we have to come up with no caste system where everybody gets their rights by their deeds.these cast based issues and misunderstandings are holding us away from being one whole society.if we this fight between casts is aimed to achieve great benifit for country at the end,then its worth fighting,if not then we should think before entering it.we are loosing precious time and energy which is more needed to nation and its growth,ultimately our growth.

  • I am not a born Bhramin, but I like the way you all live your lives. And I must say, nice thought that you have presented there. I have always asked myself this question that, on one side our educational materials talks of Bhramins being bad/brutal or whatever that word may be which justifies their inherent hate but still a Bhramin ideology doesn’t talk of taking anyone’s life. It talks of living well with the entire system with minimum damage to anyone but here we see that it is complete hate without reasons. Bhramins have never retaliated or projected themselves as victims at any time in history. They simply took what came their way and they never uttered a word. Good once are an ocean of knowledge willing to part with anything you would want to ask them and here we still have a society which mocks them, ridicules them so badly? That lead me to reading more and I must appreciate this work of yours more. I have seen more blood on the hands of the leftists here and the world over than anywhere else in this world. Hope they realize their mistakes and correct themselves before it is too late for their own existence. And I hate to say, that your own silence has lead you to this miserable situation. Hope world gives you, your rightful due.

  • Brahmins were cursed by Mahalakshmi that they will live in absense of wealth unless they worship to lord Vishnu…

      • Pri Ya, don’t be such a weak minded woman to accept such cock and bull stories. This is a fool who doesn’t know the difference between ‘anonymous’ and ‘synonymous’. The idiot will regard even Spider Man to be a true entity in the future.

        • You havn’t understood the meaning of this. Worshipping Vishnu means honouring / praising the Kings. Lakshmi means monetary wealth. Brahmins do not pursue wealth in monetary form, but they pursue wealth of knowledge, which is Saraswati. If you want to gain something, you need to pursue that. So, if you want money, worship / practice the knowledge and efforts of money. Practicing knowledge will not yield money.

  • Many Thanks Mr Udailal Paiji for the Information . Let ALL The Brahmin In India from Kashmir to Kanayakumari know the above fact.Let the information be spread to all .

  • Really good , i guess its time that we stand up and fight unitedly rather than being classified as not opposing, not fighting for anything..Those so called bashers will continue doing the same all through their life.. Even 1000s of articles like this can’t change them

  • I appreciate your well written article.. It is important for such thoughts to be known more widely. I wish to thank you for taking the effort to write this.

    One small correction – As per my understanding, Brahmins held the privilege and the exclusive rights to learning. The other castes were excluded from this process as a rule.

    • There was excluivity in every form of learning.For instance, the vysyas never allowed other castes become trading community:Gold smiths taught their skills to their relatives:carpenters taught their skills to only people in their community etc. But basically what we are talking are two different things. One is literacy and education.Probably because of caste system, the learning skills were only restricted to Brahmins. But the Brahmins never restricted this knowledge to any body. Vocational training and education was restricted to one community or other.

      • For sure you should understand one thing, the learning was not restricted only to Bhramman people. It came naturally to them as they were having right hunger for knowledge and wisdom, where in the other people had this as education is one of their need but for Brahmin it was and is the only thing that is in his mind. But you can’t say there were only Brahmins who did the classic examples would be “Vidhura” who is famous for his needhi and straightforwardness.

    • Vish i appreciate the article, but will not accept your small correction, we should understand that other sect of people were mastering in other degrees like krishna as mentioned in the above article was a non Brahmin but was studing with Sudama a Brahmin in sage Sandeepani Ashram, like that Ashwathama was also studing in Dronacharyas Ashram with the Kurus and Pandavas ,what i want to highlight here is it was the socio economic wellness who were able to afford both time and money were given prominenance as even today if you are not able to meet the Needs of day to day you will not be able to offer Education to the poor and downtrodden , as usual in any caste there were Heroes and villians

      and as usual they say Sarve Janah sukhino Bhavanthu & Loka samastha Sukhino Bhavanthu

    • We now have intellectual property rights, for example in medicine, military equipments etc., I think it’s only in our system that, knowledge is freely available. It’s needs a lot of dedication and commitment to imbibe. Unlike now, education was not paying in older times. The burden of preserving knowledge for generations was on their shoulders. Who could you force easily to learn- your own sibling. We should be very thankful to them actually that they have sacrificed their lives for the preservation of knowledge for thousands of years. Now anyone can learn it- why don’t they? Because it is not that easy and doesn’t pay. People only look at a few rich temples and comment on the money earned by priests. What about those thousands of temples, where their earnings are not enough to make ends meet. Why should they continue. They are physically weaker than others generally and hence can’t do other physically demanding jobs aswell.

    • @Vish: Please read the article again to understand it fully, which writes about as to the eminent people who gave knowledge to this world like Valmiki, Thiruvalluvar, Vyasa, Vasishta, Rama, Krishna, Tulsidas, etc..etc all names mentioned in their are not Brahmins in first place. Brahmins, the real ones, are respected for their ethics and virtues due to which knowledge came to them easily and which they gained…So your small correction is basically a major error in your understanding basically

      • Valmiki is brahmana by birth as he is tenth child of Prachetasa, as revealed by himself in Sri Ramayana and he is related to Brahma Himself. Vasishta is Brahmamaanasa putra and is great Rishi who acted as purohit of King Dasaratha and Guru of Sri Rama Himself. Recollect about Viswamitra’s fight and competition with Vasishta. By the way Viswamitra is intrnsically Brahmana though born as Kshatrirya King. The story his birth reveals this and to get this his brahminhood out, he struggled for ages and finally he could also became guru of Sri Rama. Vyasa is grand son of Vasishta and so is brahmana. Only His mother is Kshatriya of great lineage. It was a privilege kanyas marrying Rishis and even Kshatriya kings considered it as honour. Sri Rama and Sri Krishna are Kshatriayas and enjoined to learn Veda and Sastra at gurukulams. Tulasidas is Smarta Brahmana. Puranas and Kavyas are open to all along with their vocational training. Quite large number authored even Kavyas.

  • Well, atleast now, let this article be an eye-opener to all those who unnecessarily hate the Brahmin-society..Let us all join together to fight this social-evil against Brahmins.

    • Prior to anything, Brahmins first need to unite, help each other, trust each other, talk and discuss with each other and in turn not give up on each other, no matter what the short coming or mis-understanding…Stand together thru the thick and thin of situations, learn to forgive one another and move along as one big herd…..unless these happen there is no scope of brahmins gaining any place in society…For this matter same applies to all people in a civil society too in terms of coming together, leaving alone their caste differences, for a civilized world overall…Else earth being looted by greed of humans as it is, will not be able to sustain natural calamities for long. As the present Pope rightly said recently, God will forgive people, but earth and the more and more natural calamities in recent years, that which is an offshoot of human greed will not…!! In all Earth cannot sustain the human greed and infighting and be it a person of any caste whatsoever is bent to suffer after all

      • The story of a proud Brahmin travelling with fishermen in a boat is all that comes up in my mind, the way things are in present times….

  • True the Intellegence, Behaviour ,Habits have made us Brahmin ,being a good human being is the natures gifts to us remaining support from others are secondary, very encouraging article thank you.

  • My hats off to Mr. U. Pai. History tells that before Barnashram came there were no caste but the Barnashram came out of necessity as a social reform.

  • As per sastra it is said that in Kali Yug all such anarth will start and go to the maximum as it progress further. People will fail to see good reason get involved in sinful acts. Very sincere effort by writer to pass truthful message. Even now missionaries with big budget spread lies to mislead poor hindus for conversion purpose and deprive them from their great culture.

    • Missionaries are following the directives of their religion. What about people among us like Kancha Ilaiah who use their intelligence and skill-set to mislead us?

  • Dear Prof. Dr. Suhirtha Baus,
    I have seen Christian missionary playing with Brahmin sentiments. Please see Christian channels like Angel TV or Aseervatham TV.
    a] Serials portray a Brahmin family and make fun of their practice and show as if they convert to Christianity
    b] Portray a bad Brahmin causing divide among the villagers/settlement and christian missionary comes to help the village.

    Would like to remind you that in Tamilnadu because Christian missionary converting the students who learn in their school, our ancestors had to start Hindu College, Hindu high school and so on.

    This is no joke, but reality.
    I have no misgivings about Christianity, as long as they limit themselves to their work. I can say this because I am product of a Jesuit institution.
    Sometimes I feel, British shortchanged us. Along with our wealth and resources we shared our knowledge with British, but all they gave us is useless western education and baseless materialism.

    • I have studied in convent school. There is no denial that the missionaries were all the time engaged in conversion in the name of giving good education .We were asked to bring clothes from home and give them to be distributed to only converted students. It is surprising to note that the converts spew more venom against Hindus than an Anglo Indian.
      All the converts must understand that hindus have accepted them as part of our society and it is time they do not try to force their religious ideas which do not accept existence of others’.

    • Agree with Venkatesh…. Also few of the state governments are so brutal that they continue this massacare in one or the other way…

  • I would like to bring one point to author’s attention. Gita did not describe caste system, it describes Varna vyavasth. The big difference between two is – Varna is decided by Karma where as caste by birth. There is mobility between Varna’s, of course you can not be born in more than one family at time.

  • Undoubtedly brahmins have moved away from the ancient and traditional knowledge of spiritualism. The oppression and supression of brahmins is indeed a big loss to the spiritual wealth that we had. This was the true and only asset. Will the era of true spirkftual knowledge ever return?

  • Pranams,

    With all due respect to Sri Madhav’s comment above, I would like to say that, based on the vedAnta system as promulgated by great scholars like Adi shankara, rAmAnuja, and madhva, varNa system is birth-based. Specifically, one’s birth is based on one’s previous guNa and karma, and having gotten that birth, one has a latent guNa that has to be developed – which is why duties based on hereditary status are prescribed in the first place.

    It must be stressed here that all duties are important, that their selfless performance without any sense of personal desire is a must, and that they must be performed with the attitude that they are dedicated to the pleasure of bhagavAn. This is why ancient Hindus did not fuss that one person has to perform austerities and chant mantras while another is supposed raise cattle while another just does any other kind of service. All of our duties are for His pleasure only.

    Failing to understand this, one will misunderstand varNAshrama-dharma. It’s not about choosing your own path in life as Americans do. It’s about selfless performance of duty, which can only be done if the duties are assigned you based on some unambiguous trait.

    • Folks,
      Please read through this comment of Raghu two or three times and try to understand what it emphasizes, a job based on hereditary basis.
      I don’t blame him, this is a thought seeded some centuries back which was the root cause of many issues.

      No Brahmin should be oppressed similarly no person, group, scripture or system has any right to dictate a new born what he or she has to do with ones life. So to rightly put it, no person should be oppressed.

      Throw away just this one single concept of I am Brahmin I will seek knowledge you are shepherd go run behind cattle, if one choose that as his job I am sure he will do it happily but if you force it on someone it is a form of oppression and he will reject it.
      Pls think, can we accept a new book of law saying we don’t need that many Brahmins teaching Vedas or doing rituals in Banaras so you and all your future generation ride rickshaw and accept that life happily as service to almighty.

      All are born equal so put forth your point from equalitarian angle.

      I appreciate the article and its genuine concern but we should weed off few thoughts however old it maybe authentic it may sound but won’t suit today’s life where even if you insist there less and less rural jobs and more urban office or industrial jobs. The same Manu will be giving a different version of Smriti if he exist today. I am sure today’s demographics doesn’t need that many Kshatriyas or Shepherds, when farm lands have become corporates, multiplexes and apartments.

      Any socio economic backward sect should be taken care by the govt, it should take steps to improve the lives of the priest or anyone earning 350, what can one do with that today when a kg of rice cost 50 or more, how will he feed his family for even a week.

      Equality in everything is the way to go in my Humble view.

      • yes, u r right sir, further we must dis-continue our caste sur names like sharma, pandit, sastry,dickshit,iyer, iyangar etc which identifies who we are and makes us as target. As a just and equitable society we should marry among all our hindu brotherns and leave the caste system step by step. That will be good for future generation of India and development of our country. Further I must congralute the author for his unbiased work. some people may say that he used cunning word play to deceive people of truth and armtwist OBCs with SC people. but we should not mind about it.

  • Very well written article. Thanks for your in depth analysis and bringing the truth out. Thanks for sharing. The other point worth noting is that Brahmins performed yagna for the benefit of the entire society. They have always lived and upheld the Vasudeva kutumbakam concept and included everyone in their prayers ;

    Om Saha Nau-Avatu |
    Saha Nau Bhunaktu |
    Saha Viiryam Karavaavahai |
    Tejasvi Nau-Adhiitam-Astu Maa Vidvissaavahai |
    Om Shaantih Shaantih Shaantih ||

    1: Om, May God Protect us Both (the Teacher and the Student),
    2: May God Nourish us Both,
    3: May we Work Together with Energy and Vigour,
    4: May our Study be Enlightening and not give rise to Hostility,
    5: Om, Peace, Peace, Peace.

  • Thanks to Sri Pai for a true account of Brahamins. Governments after governments encouraged the bashing of Brahamins. The community always remained dumb. No political Brahamins leader came forward to defend the onslaught. Now everybody has taken Brahamins for granted. To some extent Brahamins themselves are responsible for this state of affairs. There is no unity among Brahamins. As rightly observed more and more are becoming non vegetarians. It has become a fashion among the present generation of Brahamins who are affluent to discard the rituals. To give scant respect to the traditions. I feel the present generation of Brahamins are crazy to adopt western culture. Majority of those who work in abroad change their lifestyle within a year and find their parents are old fashioned. You watch other communities. They do not discard their rituals. Let us respect our community and traditions. Teach your children our traditions. Encourage them to learn Sanskrit instead of French or Spanish. Do not join with others while criticizing Brahmins. Non Brahamins will never allow you to talk against their community at all. Brahamins are broad minded . But it does not mean to take the liberty of joining others in bashing our own community.Let us be vocal and initiate steps to stop bashing hereafter.

    • You are 100% right sir. Thanks for the aricle Pai.
      We have to take oath to support our people first, instead of supporting others. Let us be on the right path then we can say to the world follow this path or create another successful path.
      Many of them say that brahmins are uncivilized,not broad-minded is it true? Not at all. Since, childhood we were taught that ” Even if an enemy comes near home welcome them” I think this statement is enough for us to prove that we are broadminded. Am, I right?.
      I have to mention a comment posted in other website. Commenter says, Afghans are better when compared to Brahmins.
      I have to reply by this article to the commenter.
      We are not accepting this because, it is on our favour but, This is hard fact where the present generation are thinking “Being born as brahmin is my first mistake or sin ” Why are they getting this thought? are they right or wrong? No because, the root cause of this thinking is in our hands.
      How? We are accepting, what westerners says are true. We are not ready to believe our own thoughts. And, we made this generations think our ancestors as idiots by forcing them to believe what westerners suggests. Because, during the british empire they did not just loot all wealth from India but they loot the all our important truths or facts from India . With in 200 years, many of the documents were re-written where they brought a concept of Aryans and implying them as present brahmins at last they need their dominance in India ancestors facts.

      There are many facts to discuss. Lets leave all to the Time i.e., ” Kalaya tasmai namaha.”
      “Sarve jana sukhinobhavanthu”

      And thanks for this article again pai. Atleast by this we were able to share our thoughts.

      Sarvam Sri krishnarpanamasthu.

  • Very vivid and true picture of the plight of Brahmins is brought out. More and more Brahmins should practice their Dharma fervently and be united to fight for their cause.

  • well written sir,am seeing a legend in u.a new land mark and rising star who s bringing back truth of brahmins and making it to understand by others..we r always wid u sir…thnk u so much

  • Varnasrama dharma is created by whom ? Bhagavan Krishna endorses the HE has created. “chaturvarnyam maya srushtam GUNA KARMA vibhagasah” Four varna system is created by ME on the basis of GUNA and KARMA.
    Unfortunately we will accept our text book reading about the Binomial Classification of Plants etc by Aristotle giving names like Hibiscus Cannabis (Gongura) and treat it as scientific but fail to find reasoning to what has been given in our ancient texts.
    The above article states that caste system is not good to society, and proceeds with further arguments. This to me is like passing the judgement without even hearing and analysing the arguments from all sides. This is due to westernal influence in our educational upbringing. Our present text books make you to believe that a coin exists with only one side, thereby blocking our mind towards the other side of the coin. A simple question comes to my mind that Caste system (or for that matter ANY system/practice including Sati) existed and prevailed in the society for at least some duration, which itself is sufficient to believe that all the systems/practices have something positive to offer to the society. Did any body thought about those other POSITIVE sides of the System/practices ? Why not ? Simply due to the conditional thinking imbibed by the western educational system.
    How to relate this Caste System even with our educational up-bringing ?
    GUNA is due to the GENE (note the letter resemblence and word rhyming). Means the genetic DNA codification received from parental, over which individual has no control whatsoever. One can not choose his/her parents. Pertinent to mention here that the system of marriage within one’s own Caste/Sect is scientifically to help generating a progeny DNA with a constructive influence in the modification of progeny DNA from parents. Again, we have created Breeding Centers for pets, agriculture seeds etc. But a perfect Breeding System for humans is conveniently IGNORED. Marriage in our system is for a perfect progeny to the Vamsa and broadly to the universe as a whole. Ultimately what a Man’s or Woman’s contribution to the society is ONLY the children they produce in human chain. ALL OTHER ACQUISITIONS FROM BIRTH TO DEATH VANISH (MAY BE IN SOME GENERATIONS. That is why in the marriage mantras the man seeks the woman or vice versa for DHARMA PRAJA SAMPATYARTHAM. Meaning for his/her DHARMA and PRAJA (Progeny – note the rhyming) and SAMPATH (as Grihastha is the only ashram which is the POSHAKA of all including themselves, obviously requires SAMPATH. Note that it is FORBIDDEN to acquire SAMPATH in other ashramas). This naturally flows from ths Vedic stipulations (PRAJA TANTUM MAA VYAVACCHETSIH – Do not break the chain of Progeny – ALL including animals and plants).
    Coming back to our discussion on the gita sloka (chaturvarnyam …). it is clear that on GUNA one has no control. Now let us discuss the other basic factor for classification. It is KARMA. The things/works what one does (includes the the works done by him)from Birth to Death. The SMRITIs prescribe the KARMAs to be performed (or NOT to be performed) list of Do’s and Don’ts (Six basic KARMAs for each VARNA). Meaning here is that by practising ONLY the KARMAs prescribed for his/her VARNA makes a Constructive influence on the GENE they produce and pass on for the next generations. If one does the list of Don’ts prescribed for his/her VARNA, (it is called VARNA-SAMKARA), then the the GENE they produce and pass on will be Destructively influenced, thereby creating bad to the society. There are numerous examples and Case Studies on this issue in our texts.
    Unfortunately ALL VARNAS for the past few centuries have indulged (continue indulging) in VARNA-SAMKARA.
    This phenomenon has NO reversal (to my understanding as of now). The ultimate destruction can be delayed if the system is properly understood and implement remedies with conviction (whatever that strikes to the mind of individuals)
    Coming to the conditions of present society I give below my observations of my childhood in our village some 45 years back.
    I belong to a family of Vedic Pandits took to Government job as scientist. I am also a VARNA-SAMKARA as per my understanding of the term.
    While feeding a (so-called) SUDRA VARNA person at our home, they used to feed in the veranda of the house, provide the leaf plate to him and he used to clean the place of eating with water, on finishing the food. Later we used to wash again with ourselves.
    While feeding to the person of the same caste stated above, our RICH neighbour BELONGING TO SUDRA VARNA but different community, they drop the food in the leaf plate in his hands itself and he is supposed to take the food away at a farther place to eat and forbidden to eat even in the verandah of our Rich Neighbour.
    The observation makes me think that When you realise the changes in the society ADAPT to the new conditions without relaxing much on your convictions.
    If any one feels to have a discussion (mind you NOT AN ARGUMENT) they are welcome.

    • I have great yearning to go back to my roots. I am a Sarswat Brahimins from Kashmir.My study so far tends to support my belief that Brahiminism or Brahiminic Supermacy has been the cause of all the oppression we have endured so far.One of the reasons for this perhaps is what called “certainty of faith”.The certainty of faith that you are right devolves into righteousness and dogmatism.Faith requires an awareness of the possibility of being wrong or at least out of place.The greatest dilemma for me has been that how could Brahimins wit heir intellect and learning not have a common sense to project their faith with the changing times- politically ,socially ,culturally …..Even now we play victims, which I feel is a shame.While our Dharma asks us only to beg for our daily survival necessities , why have we extended it to other things like our place in society.
      Sastryji, I want to discuss further.My email I’d is ashokdullu@gmail.com…Request your support for understanding the issues better.

    • What kind of a scientist are you? It is because of dogmatic and nefarious elements like you that the Caste system and all its venomous influence has tortured our great nation, under who’s control we’re still reeling! It is precisely because of the dangerous concept that Brahmins have become the hated villains, on which Mr. Uday sir’s article exhorts about.
      The entire system of casteism is flawed cause it allows the provision of heredity. The venerated Brahmin saints, in all their divine knowledge and wisdom somehow could not envisage such a blatant problem present inherently. Modern India was pragmatic enough to understand this diabolic concept of ‘caste’.

      But don’t get me wrong; I completely agree with every bit of this article and am thoroughly impressed by the logic, rationale and morality reflected herein. While the author was wise enough to negate the caste system, anti-social elements like you muddle the whole issue. The ashrama has done enough damage to the vital fabric of society. There is enough hate and malice towards fellow human beings because of the classification. Be civilised enough not to spew more oil into the boiling cauldron of evil. You talk about breeding, progeny and all other scientific knowledge with convenient pretence that you succesfully sap out the wisdom from them. A ‘guna’ is similar to ‘gene’? That is the level of sense and wisdom you possess!! Do a favour to humanity- don’t spread such nefarious ideas…we have seen enough of them and time has shown us infinite contradictions to the filthy system. Yes, filthy. If people have certain special gunas, so be it. It is pure foolishness to attribute gunas to progeny and attempt to classify people on those lines. Even a modern anthropologist will emphasise on this (with an obvious exception of physical traits). A healthy family, society and nation is enough to make a Brahmin out of any child. I don’t know how old you are now sir, but please exercise a better sense of wisdom for as long as you live from now.

      A Brahmin friend.

  • Adding to my earlier comments,
    I wonder why people take that Caste/Religion/Region have ONLY a dis-integrating influence in the society ?? To me, it simply is a myopic thinking. In fact the SVADHARMA prescribed in the SMRITIS has ALL the positive and INTEGRATING influence in the society and also creates a NATURAL bonding among people. The problem arise only when we try to COMPARE. We only COMPARE selectively among the VARNAS. How foolish it is to compare ONLY the facilities enjoyed by my BOSS at work and NOT compare the responsibilities and accountabilities to the company. First of all, Why COMPARE at all with others? Do the SVADHARMA prescribed for us.
    Hanuman Sastry Madduri

    • Swadharma means the sole objective of human form i.e., realizing “SELF”. Paradharma means following the tendencies and the nature of senses. Para refers to Indriya or Senses. On several occasions Krishna addresses Arjun as ParamTapa – Means one who has won over tendencies/sensual cravings. Arjuna has achieved this to a large extent by then through rigorous penance at the advise of Krishna earlier itself. Arjuna achived Pasupatyam (means raised above animalistic standard sensory pleasures oriented living)

    • Myopic thinking? You have excelled beyond every fathomable sense of being myopic and regard the hapless exploited folk to be myopic. You think you are a BOSS only because you’ve been born to a family?
      The caste system has FAILED! I repeat, it has utterly failed and has spread hatred among the fellow human beings. I have been subjected to ample ridicule and introspection regarding the caste I have been born in. A lot of my Brahmin friends freely indulge in smoking, alcohol, meat consumption, illegitimate sex, etc. yes, the in-vitro breeded progeny you talk about. If my forefathers were regarded Brahmin, it was only because of their traits. Such a simple point which people like you can never understand! Be progressive and don’t throw us on the feet f an idea which has done nothing short of a genocide!

  • Fantastic article sir. I seek your permission to print and publish this article…just want make sure that thus reaches the makes possible public….

  • Dear Sir,
    This is a wonderful article. An eye opener. But the thing is we Brahmins, like you say are not fighting types. We are too proud to beg for our rights. We like to get everything on our abilities rather than depend on reservations, kotas etc. We are brainy and we are extremely proud of that. Also we are v tolerant and let go of any untoward things happening to us.

  • Udai Garu

    As you usual, another excellent article from you. I appreciate your article even more for the reason that I have lived in this country for 50 full years experienced hatred from other communities and castes at every step of my career and life. Unfortunately, people from all the times have been looking for and found some basis to create hatred among themselves. Religion, Castes, Wealth, Political Status, Regional, color etc etc. All this should go and future generations should work towards eliminating ill feelings towards each other.

    Thank you,

    Warm Regards

  • brahmana means one who has brhma jnana, in the definition mentioned above srotriya but, the one who born to brahmana parents can never be brahmana unless they learn brahmajnaana. the anti brhamnism started for the so called people born to brhmana parents and left the main stream who never care for brahma jnana or hinduism. we should pity for the status created by our past neo brahman people. now we should correct ourselves by learning the vedas etc., and follow sanatana dharma. we should REMEMBER for sanatana dharma no one needs to uplift if you are able to uplift on your own. that is real

  • My sincere thanks to PAI sir, who have posted this article. My self a son of temple priest have faced brutal acts of modern ethists and had got ill treated in the society. My father was paid by committe of Rs/- 1000 at retirement in 2010. Do you think a person can run life with only 1,000. I a seeing most of the areas temples are cosntructed to make business and money and poojari’s are ill treated with this simple pea nuts. I ask again are poojari’s are not human beings. A software engineer cannot live untill he gets 30k of salary. but how come a priest living in same era can live with 2k salary ? Every where people talk that poojari’s and purohits are earning lot and minting money But in reality there is no minting. A brahmin is the only person who do not have company insurance, PF, gratiuty, or any benefits of every employee who earns money. I swear and say that life of brahmins is under threat all the way as i have seen generations from 1970’s till date. If there is any reformation needed that is only for brahmins to make thier living.

  • Wonderful work by Shri. Pai. But, I feel that the Brahmins should teach the youngsters of today, how great and ancient our culture is and how scientific are our Vedhas and rituals. Once they go deep into the the Puranas ans Ithihasas, they will begin to understand that all the sciences and latest discoveries of today have been mentioned thousands of years ago in our puranas. For example “the big bang theory” which the westerners ‘Discovered’ less than 60 years ago can be explained in the very first chapter of the “Mahabharatha”. Unfortunately, i doubt, whether most of the present day Brahmins have read any of the Puranas or Ithihasas, let alone the Vedhas. That is our plight today. The Brahmins have become western orientated and satisfied with what they have with minimum care for their own community. Who is to blame for their plight and and meek acceptance of the present conditions?

  • Even the young minds are poisoned through popular cartoons like chota bheem where a bad wicked guy or a thief is always shown as a bramin sporting a shika, they are also shown as eating chicken steaks in hiding, what kind of impact is this going to have on budding minds? kids are taught to hate and look down upon bramins yet like you say no bramin has ever sued them for this. sorry state of affairs

  • Yes great stuff from pai,
    The whole world should be drawn towards this historic blunder.how can we suffer for no fault of ours.it’s enough

  • WE HAVE STOPPED OURSELVES FROM BEING BRAHMAN – The most powerful minds on the planet.
    => DO NOT THINK U R DOING WRONG n GOD WILL PUNISH U,,,its our right to protect ourselves and in which case we must not hesitate to destroy our opponent.

  • All Brahmins should stop using english language which is primarily a the language of Christian missionaries.
    Brahmins should also stop working for c hristian majorty nations.

  • If brahmins take every effort to keep their distance from non brahmins and not integrate with the society , they will be treated as such. It was their own doing that they are treated badly today. They have never promoted an egalitarian society and the community has got a bad name that its cunning and crony.

    All said and done, even today’s Brahmins still among themselves feel and think that they are superior to other castes. They behave strangely. Not fair to be persecuted for the past sins, but there is still enough vitriolic in the community to not let it go scot-free.

  • As a fellow Brahmin, let me share some thoughts. We all agree that our Brahmin culture and tradition are disappearing for reasons above and also due to poverty and social change. Let us classify for practical purpose, our Brahmins as follows;
    A] Temple priests bearing the burden of poverty and still maintaining tradition.
    B] Brahmins [ like me] settled abroad, well to do. But do care about our plight.
    C] Poor Brahmins in India living in poverty , unable to continue tradition or under social pressure.
    D] Middle class Brahmins in India bearing the brunt of Govt policies [ Constitutionally mandated genocide ]
    E] Other Brahmins, I.e disillusioned, don’t care, liberated etc.
    It becomes obvious, that ” B” should help all others for survival [ No Brahminism if we don’t survive] and above all ” A” is the single most important group to protect, for preservation of culture and tradition.

  • It is an excellent article and an very good eye opener for many who have wrong notion on brahmins. He must have struggled enough to collect such vast range of information. Great. Thanks for sharing with us. My good wishes to Mr. Pai.

  • I see that you are claiming that brahmins have been targeted by all other sects for their own benefit and that their is no proof for any of the so claimed injustices meted out by brahmins to lower castes,agreed.
    However i see your own stand as no different wherein you are accusing the Portugese, the britishers, the Mughals, and even Tipu sultan’s Mysore Kingdom for carrying out crimes against the brahmins without any proof(apart from quoting the Legends and repeat-a-lie-thousand-times-to-convince type statements).
    Request you to kindly put out all the sources from where you got your facts).Thanks.

    • @Skeptical: Forget the part that the Portugese, Britishers, Mughals and others carried crimes against Brahmins. I’m sure you have enough facts to at least know that this group of people massacred several thousands of people in the region (now called India) in the name war / religion etc. This is a fact that’s well documented! Now the question is.., when people are ready to forgive and move-on against this group of people, why don’t you just move-on on from bashing Brahmins??

  • Apart from the article…one thing is clear that all Brahmins know about the innocence they have in them. Instead of changing other people, which is not even a battle that Brahmins(non-violent, timid) will stand for. I believe that its time Brahmins shed their innocense, timidity and all the soft virtues we have just for the survival in the outerworld. Inside, with your head or within your family behave as a Brahmin, outside be a fucking warrior. (I am a Brahmin, and internets is not my head.) Even the Gods, take avtaars to change reality. You gotto do what you gotto do. Stop behaving softly to the outside world and embrace the new reality with intelligence, courage and fury.

  • Then again some one said let us make the world understand the truth… I dont understand why do brahmins need the world to know the truth. Especiaaly when you can enjoy all the reservations on a false belief, why will you even look at the truth.The truth however is very simple, change your avataar for some centuries, come to power and then tell the truth. And stop tagging yourself in this changed avataar of non-violent and soft and loving and etc… wo time nikal gaya mere bhaiyyon..Change your avataar.

  • The story presented is truth and only truth and not a fiction .As of now there are lakhs of brahmin families
    who are struggling to exist and lead a normal human life forget about suppressing others .I know only one thing
    what my parents tought me to not fight with any one, help others, study well and teach ohters if you are able to.
    I am also a poor brahmin who struggled a lot in life for sustaining my family. However I am better off now and pray for those lakhs of brahmins who are struggling for daily food for survival. god bless them with more courage. I am thankful to the author and Dr prabhakar korada who forwarded this artical which is an eye opener for many .

  • The article explains about the current plight brahmins but it does not give the complete. If anyone reads the article it is logically clear that for any foreign ruler to build his empire in India they have to eliminate or subjugate the strongest community in India. That is the reason for all those atrocities on Brahmins or other strong communities during those times. Brahmins are always the group who are classified to provide proper direction to the society. If any one looks at Puranas any person can be classified into one of the four varnas not by his birth but by his actions. This kind of thought process has taken a backseat and several sects are formed within brahmins classifying them as Iyengars, Namboodris, Niyogis .etc. The Brahmins instead of driving the society towards Dharma have started taking sides. This definitely seems like a double standard to most of the people from other castes. If you take the example of Chanakya, He has done an incredible work in finding and making of chandragupta maurya and he did this not for his benefit but for the society. This exact feeling is lost over time by most of the Brahmins and they started seeking benefits from the stronger class of the society. If anyone talks about education system in the society before the British era. The basic system of was transfer of knowledge from Master to the student and most the educated class were either rich or the Brahmins of the society and majority of the lower classes felt betrayed. The rich class always act in their interests and are not concerned about the welfare of the society even in the present day. The Brahmins who are given this task of educating the society have seriously undermined it before the British era and for this very reason were alienated by others in the society and are considered cunning and adamant. The British system has changed the social scenario, the British gave power to people who supported them or were the majority. The democratic India still follows these practices and I don’t see any relief to the Hindu culture until the emphasis on the caste system is eliminated.

  • Well articulated by Sri Udaylal Pai, although it veers towards getting back to the days of yore! I believe that any man can be a “Brahman” by his conduct, knowledge & compassion. Also do not agree with a few folks regarding, caste by birth, set duties as per his/her “previous karma/guna” etc. We should eradicate inequality, and those meritorious should help in the progress of those unfortunate. It’s today’s need that we see each human as an equal. Drumming up differences is akin to driving wedges in society. Equality, freedom & opportunity for all will bring about a positive future.
    As an academic discourse, this serves as an eye opener though!

  • Nice thoughts..Well written..

    Please edit..Vashishta was born by will of Brahma..You cannot say he is not Brahmana..

  • The article is okay but harping on the past is not good for the Brahmin community. There are few facts which I want to highlight here:-
    1) Vishwamitra who wast the most powerful kshatriya ruler of his time was completely defeated by the great brahmin Vasishta. He then quotes”Truly the might of the Kshatriya who conquers all areas in the various directions is great, BUT THE REAL POWER IS BRAHMATEJA or the power of a brahmin!

    2) The mantras which are chanted are able to please the gods and bring them into their control; These mantras are in turn controlled and in the hands of the Brahmin: Therefore THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THE GODS ARE IN THE CONTOL OF THE BRAHMIN.

    If all these exalt the powers of the Brahmin then what has gone wrong:

    The brahmin him self is the main cause for his ruin. He can be born as a brahmin. But the shastra say EVERY PERSON IS BORN ONLY A SUDRA, HE BECOMES A BRAHMIN ONLY BY HIS KARMA. That is why many of the so called brahmins have lost their divine power and are suffering. Our main primary DHARMA is ACHARA. How many of the pseudo Brahmins are actually aware of our secret strength?

    It is wrong to say we have not ruled any government. History is replete with examples where Brahmins have ruled BHARAT. Only when a brahmin guides a ruler will that country or ruler prosperes as per the Mahabharata. Dronacharya was not only a great teacher, but made his son ASHWATHAMMA ruler after seizing half the kingdom of Drupada. Sage Parashurama destroyed 21 generations of Kshatriyas and appointed Brahmins rulers and administrators of many kingdom and this great CHIRANJIVI is still alive to pinish the evil doers.


    • You dont need mantras to please the God.
      There is this legend which talks about a hunter who was devoted to Lord Shiva. Everyday the hunter would offer his kill in front of Shiv ling,He has been doing this for a long time One day Lord Shiva decided to test the devotion of the hunter. Blood started coming out of the eye area on the shiv ling. The hunter cut out his eye and placed over the bleed area. When the other eye also started bleeding the hunter placed his foot on the shiv ling to identify the bleed spot and then cut out his other eye. Lord Shiva pleased with his devotion appeared before the hunter.
      Moreover the mantras will generally be for the welfare of all the people

  • Nw we hav reached such a state whr brahmans r d minorities……..n all those bloody backward class claimin undeservin people r gettin our deservin places…i didn’t qualify AIPMT mains jst bcoz of 15 marks n my neighbour’s son qualified though he got 36 marks less than me….jst bcoz he is an SC….so i hate all d SC,ST n OBCs…..

  • Very good article… I am always bashing ppl who have corrupted the word ‘Brahmin’.. Jerks who know nothing of brahmin call themselves brahmins just because some remote forefathers of theirs mugged up some script slokas and perform pujas..
    I am ardent fan and aspirant of Indian Vedas, Dravidian Vedas.. thats why my blood boils when I see absolutely jerks who have no link to Vedanta, absolutely no knowledge of what it means, who absolutely have no knowlege of Sanskrit call themselves Brahmins..
    Specially the lowest form of them are the newly created “TamBrahms” .. Have you had the experience of this junkies.. none of the ppl who call themselves have any trait or any knowlege or any good character that can be equal to that of a Brahmin.. It is the ppl who call themselve “Brahmin” have absolutely spoiled and diluted and destroyed the Indian culture apart from other sections of Hindu caste who call themselve superior castes..

    • Wow. You are exactly the kind of trash that provoked writing this article. If someone wants an example of hatred against brahmins, please refer to this Sangeeta “fan of Vedas” Basakran’s comment.

    • Very well written comment, specially selection of words really proves that you have excellent knowledge of all the Vedas and have adopted the teachings in your life to the fullest, and that is why, you find all the Brahmins as JERKS..

  • Did you know that no person from any caste other than the ones calling themselves brahmins can perform puja in our temples even if they have been trained well?
    This damn thing is still happening in India.. I have up and close experience with some of these ppl and families.. trust me, they are obnoxious, dangerous, anti-social, absolutely stupid ppl ever.. they literally think they are born to higher caste!! Trust me, the common opinion among ppl about the brahmin is not false…. i am sure there are wonderful and nice ppl too but majority of them are jus obnoxious in nature..
    Calling oneself a ‘Brahmin’ is like calling yourself a “Engineering PHD” without even knowing the basic laws of physics, its like without even undergoing the training of a real Engineer, you jus mug up some sanskrit slokas and blurt and fool ppl..
    I have checked out the sacred thread ceremony and know guys who are absolutely dumb, feast on every animal flesh including cow, pig, absolutely stupid, totally characterless, even if the guys goes around drinking, have tons of girl affairs, even if the guys does not know a blip of Vedanta, can easily become a brahmin jus if he is born into the ‘self-acclaimed’ brahmin family, and if the parents are ready to pay tons good money to the vadiyaar.
    Dont doubt the bad reputation these ppl have created for themselves.. its absolutely true…
    I agree there are lots of ppl within this community are doing great things, but they probably are realised ppl and dont call themselves Brahmins. cos they understand the real thing!

    • Mantra: Manana Trana iti Mantrah – A quick and easy way to remember, – English word that can match is “FORMULA”. formula in itself does no good than to carry on the knowledge down the stream easily. The practice is what makes the difference. The formula that Acid+Base results in Salt + Water is of no use, unless those materials are reacted and result is obtained to create necessary salt.

      Puja – Have heard about Pujyam? Means Zero. The practice or process of emptying your Vyashti (Personal) Deha Ahamkara (Dehoham – I am the body) and merging in the original Universal SELF. It is penance, reduced to a mere ritual and just like any other material pursuits with an interest of deriving boons.

  • Hi this is really wonderful message, it should be circulated to each and every bramhin in the world. I am very proud to born as brahmin.

  • This could possible be the worst article I have ever read. No sources, no evidence, just anecdote after anecdote, and comparison of Brahmins to Jews in the Holocaust, where 6 million were killed in a genocide. What the author is smoking, I don’t know but this shoddy excuse for an article should invite the author to examine his claims in more detail.

  • Fantastic article, very fact based and authentic. Thank you sir for bringing out the plight of our community who are having to leave our homeland for no fault of ours and seek a difficult settlement away from our comfort zone. The ones staying back are having to compete unfairly and cross undue lofty hurdles to survive. This has to stop and there will be consequences.

  • This is a honest heartfelt article.
    As a tambram woman who completed her college in Christian institutions, I had to endure racism and irrational hate comments from lecturers and nuns even just because of their distorted views and narrow minds.I had no option than shut up or be ostracized if I stood up. It makes my blood boil even now.
    Although social media is spreading awareness on our community, I would never risk my children studying some place where they’ve to go through this.
    Not all those who aren’t from the Brahmin community are anti.. it’s a handful of misguided people who spoil the view of the society.

  • “Nobody asked the non-brahmins not to read.”…seriously,,???? you really think it was like a cake walk for the non brahmins or the low caste people to get educated during olden times ??? I guess this is the part of the article, where you are making your point of view weaker by undermining the pain it was for a low cast / non-brahmin to get education in the olden times…am fine with every other point in the article but this…sorry…i cant take it…

    • Please take a look at Sri. Dharmpal’s book titled “A beautiful tree” (available online for download, just google) to get the education statistics in 18th century to see for yourself if this is true or not. The source of information was the census by the British (the invading forces) and not of Brahmin’s making a self-claim. Ofcourse, even the book can be debated but with statistics equivalent in quality and source clearly stated.


  • How all kinds ofreservation excludes only brahmins. stage has comewhen bramins sho;uld e declared as backward or better as schedules tribe category.Only silver lininng is a small reservation in communilst state of Kerala for brahmins who; understand humanity.How long should the current reservation policy contine which is crippling our economy.god bless india.

  • There are several statistics mentioned, which are questionable. However, the overall article is very nicely written and clearly portrays how Brahmins are actually the ones being targeted because of propaganda of lies.

  • As far to my understanding in our country Brahmin Community has to be in the top. Since only they r given the rights to read and learn the Vedic scripture which has so many truth of who is god.hence it is the the responsibility of Brahmins to guide this world by teaching everyone the truth of god.as far as I believe it is Brahmin community who can bring society to right path IF every Brahmin had been leading the path and life as mentioned in spiritual scriptures.but as a sad truth at least in foreign land most of the Brahmin community are Getting highly diverted from the lifestyle which is totally not acceptable for a Brahmin community and Vedas.every Brahmin should feel proud of themselves that they r born in community where they can stay so near to god.but in recent days they r falling for this materialistic and bogus modern world .many carry brahminism in to show their pride but do not follow what really they should follow to feel proud as Brahmin.iam writing this very sadly after watching the lifestyle many Brahmins lead in this land which is outside our Bharat.

  • At last one bold article showing the Brahmins in their true state high esteem and condemning the atrocities against them committed since more than a thousand yand ears. This should be an eye-opener to many.

  • i am not against other brahmins but i hate tamil brahmins to the core.they are the most conservative idiotic irritating group of morons.good thing thiese dravidian parties have completely isolated and marginalized tambrahms.and the next counter point by someone may go like this:CM herself is brahmin.so infact a brahmin actually rules TN.ha ha TN CM jayalalithaa is a born brahmin that’s all.she has been actively influenced by dravidian politics.even a brahmin can’t win from mylapore constituency even if brahmins are a majority there.i have seen cases where iyers and iyengars bicker against each other.i have seen different sub-castes of iyers itself quarrelling over trivial issues.they have no unity whatsover.hats off to the dravidian parties.let us drive out all TAMBRAHMS from TN.already 75% job is done.many have migrated to B’lore,Mumbai,NCR and abroad.the job is not yet complete.let me share an instance with you.once i went to a tambrahm’s house(he happened to be my friend-not anymore).i asked him to use his toilet so that i can pass urine.after i left his place and after he closed the door,i sat outside putting on my shoe.this chap asked his wife to thoroughly clean the toilet that i had used-he directly referred me by my name.TAMBRAHMS are useless weeds who need to be eliminated.people like Periyar are great warriors and they are immortal.we need many more periyars to wipe out these weeds.

    • I hope we have a Moderator for the site who can take note of such racial and abusive language and take this dude to the jail!

    • I pity the plight of Mr Balu Naicker. In any community there are good and bad people. He should not make sweeping accusations against a whole community for the wrong committed by an individual and his view on the Brahmin community is not at all acceptable.

      A government officer was caught in a similar situation experienced by Mr Balu Naicker and he had to attend the call of nature immediately. He rushed to my father-in-law’s house and explained to him his urgency. Being a generous hearted man, my father in law immediately obliged him and asked the official to go ahead. After attending the call of nature, the official felt highly relieved and profusely thanked my father in law for his humanitarian gesture.

      In such situations people should cut across man made barriers like caste, creed and religion. Today most of the Brahmins have changed their mindset and are in line with today’s life style. Of course there are some negligible percent of people who still continue to live in the old world and clinging to worn out traditions and customs which are not in tune with today’s world. Such people would do well to change their mindset. and start living after understanding the ground realities.

  • one of d best articles i have read in recent times.it is carefully written focusing on facts.but its pathetic that 90% of people in backward casts hold brahmins responsible for inequality in society.hope d situation changes

  • i like the way the above article had unfolded…. i wud also add to the above facts that initially the very classification of the varnas was purely based on occupation alone!!!
    the very definition of the above system was gradually altered to be a right originated as a result of hereditary !!!!
    (jus like now we have – an engineer’s son have to become an engineer to protect his fathers respect and stuff or a politicians son gets have a smooth introduction into politics and hold vital positions in their respective party )

    Now if we classify people in these old respects
    we observe any person who is brahmin by hereditary and holding a designation in a call center is by norms of the real system is classified as shudra(as he provides service to the company)

    similarly if he is a soldier , in police and etc. is is classified as kshathriya… (more into physical jobs)

    if he is into business then he is a vyshya

    or else if he is more into intellectual jobs like analyst, scientist,teaching and etc only then he gets to be classfied as brahmin!!!

    now there are other jobs that have popped out… which can be classified as an overlapping of multiple varnas or requires a new defn. …..

    …. so basically this whole caste system is nothing but an empty shell… where if you go by the actual initial norms of the system you would be hurting the sentiments of majority of people in the present, and if you go by the present system(more of an birth oriented classification) you are by default are going to hurt your own roots!!!!

    this view is in no means to offend any targeted group of people … for this view is just a perpective of the truth than truth itself!!!

    • then who decided that it should be by birth – people who got used to a good life, would definitely want their children to have that – whether they deserve it or not. meritocracy is the only way to go forward

  • Not a well researched article. One example of Brahmin king in mythology is Guru Dronacharya who handed over the kingdom to his son Ashwathama. Vishwamitra, a Rajarishi, ruled Ayodhya after he got it from King Harishchandra.There may be others but for this one needs to read our scriptures in detail. And yes, Tulsidas was a brahmin and Ved Vyas (Krishna Dwayipayan) was born to a Brahmin father and a fisher-woman mother. So he was Brahmin to some extent. ‘Satvik’ doesn’t mean ‘vegetarian’. Please read the Bhagwat Gita where it has been clearly described as to what constitutes ‘satvik’, ‘rajsik’ and ‘tamsik’. No where it has been mentioned that ‘non-vegetarian’ is ‘not satvik’. Valmiki Ramayan clearly describes Shri Ram, Lakshman, Mother Sita, Bharat and Shatrughan to be meat eaters. Will you call them ‘tamsik’? Whether people were oppressed by Brahmins or not can be gauged by this fact that till date many people from ‘lower castes’ are treated as ‘untouchables’ and are not allowed to enter temples. In many temples in India, men are asked to remove their upper body garments just to ascertain whether he is a ‘brahmin’ or not by looking out for Janeu. This does not mean that all brahmins were/are oppressors but it is a fact that a large population amongst them indulged in such activities. And due to this, when foreigners invaded India, the ‘lower castes’ never came to the rescue of the ‘higher castes’ as in any case their lot would have remained same whatever the political situation.

    • Dronacharya was not a king. He was mistreated by his friend during his days as student. he commanded his student Arjuna to bring him down as his gurudakshina. So Dronacharya was not a king but his son was.

  • Jesus Christ ! What a bunch of unconnected bunkum strewn into an article. Not one argument struck me as valid. Replace Brahmins in this with any other cultural cohort. And the anecdotes with incidents from that cohort’s past. And I can make the same argument about any cultural group. There is no Brahmin if you ( not you. I mean Brahmins ) identify yourself as one of the rest of the world. If you stick to your past and talk about the great advances you made in medicine only to be taken down by something as simple as smallpox, Then you deserve to be bashed !

  • Brahmin is supposed to live a very simple and dharmic life,earn and share knowledge freely.Take as little as possible from the society and sacrifice maximum to the development of the society.At present ,all these things are not possible in practice and there are certain deviations.In spite of all this still Brahmin is respected provided he lives like a Brahmin.Brahmin remains a Brahmin by his conduct but not exclusively by birth or by studies.So every Brahmin must not miss his habits ,culture and his simple and Dharmic life.

  • I wish this article reaches every nook and corner of our country and particularly to all those so called `brahmin haters’.

  • The system broke down because of the invasion. The Kings/Kshatriyas are supposed to provide security to the Brahmins, Elderly and the Woman. The Brahmins did not have to worry about being poor because the system took care of their daily requirements by giving them alms for performing rituals. They also did not aspire for any riches because the system took care of their future needs also. But after the invasion and the advent of paper money, the Kshatriyas failed to support the other three cateogries. So, the Brahmins left their jobs and started earning, Since Kshatriyas and the Brahmins left their traditional karma, the others had to compete with the Brahmins.

  • Well written article!!! Absolutely true except for the fact that brahmins did hold power in India. The Maratha empire during the reign of the Peshwas was brahmin dominated. The Peshwas were Chitpavan Brahmins from Konkan. I am a Chitpavan myself from the city of Pune where many Chitpavan families migrated to during the reign of the Peshwa. Brahmins themselves became rigid after a point. Especially after foreign invasion. We can see how they treated widows..
    Today’s problem is more of how the caste divisions are kept alive. Brahmins have always been at the front in India. A few examples in Maharashtra would be Lokmanya Tilak, Savarkar, Justice Ranade, Gopal Gokhale and Vasudev Phadke who were exemplary freedom fighters.
    We have reservation system which needs to be justified through such untruths about Brahmins. But I believe the Brahmin will adapt and prevail!!!

  • I’m a firm Devi bhaktha and I don’t think anyone is over or below another, be it human or the rest of nature, we are all equals and divine inherently. That said, I’d just like to bring to your attention that there are few errors in your article –
    Firstly – Brahmins also took up the offices of Kshatriyas – Apart from clerical work they also were ministers ( mostly kshatriyas were minsiters in those times) – Sachivas or Amatyas. Maratha/ Konkani Brahmins who served as ministers later joined the armies which later emerged into the Chatrapathi of sattara. The namboodhitirs marry kshatriya women, but the women of namboodthiri groups cannot marry men outside.
    Secondly – Yes Krishna was a yadava, Raama a Kshatriya, Rudra a.k.a Shiva a Kiraathakan, but why were all these non-Brahmin Gods made to wear the “sacred” thread ? If you say it is a symbol of Wisdom, Paramhamsa His Holiness Ramakrishna rent His thread in twain after becoming wise.
    I do believe there should be no castes ! I love my Brahmana brothers and sisters as I have more of them (I’m a barathanatyam and Mohiniyattam dancer), what I hate is the “Brhaminism”
    Thirdly – You talked about different authors belonging to different castes being authoring various epics and holy books and then towards the end, you say Brahmins gave Naatyashasthra, ayurveda and yoga. There are older books than natyashasthra written in the local languages and naatyashastra is one of the many books on dance, ayurveda and yoga were practised mainly by Siddhas and Gnanis who were beyond any labels and were, so to speak from many diffrernt castes and not just Brahmin caste !
    Dear Brother, Before you write things please study and understand our history. I do totally agree with you on the point that the muslims and christians have divided the sons and daughters of this soil !
    May the Divine Mother guide you !
    Vaazhga Valaththudan ! (Live in prosperity and wisdom)
    Om Shakthi !

  • Brahmins have been in top positions in Hindu religion, security and planning advisors to Kings, played major role in education and development in different kingdoms in India. India was advance in education and science because of Brahmins .Despite of all these facts How India became slave for one thousand years and outsiders ruined our heritage, killed innocents and converted to other religion? If you think deep into it Brahmin ideology is the reason behind all these where other civilizations did lot of advancements in weapons and war strategy instead of promoting and pushing people to religion myths and bhakti. Why Brahmin like Chanakaya never born again to make strong and powerful India? At the end when we look into the past Brahminism destroyed the country and its descendants with its ideology. Today not only Brahmins are suffering whole country is suffering because of their Brahmin ideology who had all opportunities in their hand to make a strong country and people with good faith.

    • Brhmana ideology is only each one to follow their according to their varna and aasrama. Please remember we have brahmanas who were great warriors and participated in wars, like Dronaacharya, Kripaacharya, Aswaththaama and Parasurama. It is only due to Buddhism and Jainism which have Ahimsa to rediculous heights as their prime ideology. Most of the able bodied men slipped into the sanyasis joining these new religions. This is main reagion for our failures in tackling the Islamic and Christian agressors. It appears that Brahmanas spiritular power do not work on these total disbilvers like these about our Dharma. So they are to be dealt with only military means to their elemination for they did not follow rules of truce and defeat. That was not possible with the new ideas from Buddhism and Jainism that had become the fashion of those times.

  • Very well written article !!! Especially paragraph with “double-edged sword” !!!

    It reflects the real state of Brahmins in INDIA.. INDIA can be a super power only if system of meritocracy is put into practice.

    There should not be caste based reservation but reservation based on family income to give fair chance for under developed.

    Jai Hind !!!

  • This well known fact should be known to every human being around the world! I Indeed proud to be indian, to be Hindu and Brahmin. Thanks for your explanatory truth abour brahmins.

  • We have acquainted with all the worldly comforts. Wealth accumulation is not a brahmin way. Why don’t all treat this as an opportunity than bashing to bring back our good speak worthy deeds to the world.

  • Nicely brought out. In the guise of uplifting the non-brahmins, the meritocracy has lost its importance. This is one of the reasons why our children have to leave our own country and migrate to other developed countries like US and European countries where merit is recognised and nothing else. If you take a count of number of brahmins among the persons of Indian origin in US or other countries, perhaps you will find them in majority. This huge brain drain is a great loss to our country. Today our own country treats brahmins as second class citizens. It is unfortunate, but cannot do much as we are helpless. Inspite of this, I would like to be born again as a brahmin if there is a life after death.

  • I was born in a brahmin family but i grew up as an athiest. I’ve literally seen in front of my eyes how brahmins execute untouchability. So i myself got angry towards the fellow brahmins. But i realised its not only the brahmins who follow this. but also other dominant castes. But nobody says anything about them.
    This article above is good, but need proofs regarding mughals and aurangazeb…….

  • the real problem here is perception.
    even today every good individual is respected and gets hid due. the main reason for so called brahmin bashing is bcoz of the present practice. the real meaning of a brahmin has been lost.
    nobody is a born brahmin.
    if u consider urself so by birth, then u have lost the plot.
    so try to be a real brahmin then c the whole mankind will respect.
    go back to vedic period and understand how the whole system has been manipulated/corrupted.
    if u do so then u know its not personal, but every common man /society’s longing for one to guide and support them. I mean they are longing to c a real brahmin whom they can always fall upon at all times.
    in hope to c one who is above himself,caring for mankind.
    hope we will c a few who are Brahmin by their deeds.

  • I am non-brahmin, but born to Hindu parents. I strongly feel brahmins were/are the victims of propaganda, of modern political parties and social reformers. The acid-attack on Brahmins, were done under the leadership of Dravidian Parties. Their mind in-turn were poisoned by two Christian men, (1) Rev. Bishop Robert Caldwell (2) Francis Ellis. I have posted about these developments on my blogpost msradhablogspot.in. My posts also dwells on the subject of untouchability.

  • yes bramhins are not treated fair these days… i am a born bramhin, a proud bramhin… but i think its high time we stop calling ourselves bramhins, marathas or whatever… we all are indians… our society is divided too much to allow the progress of our country.. lets focus on that.. we have a hopes of a bight future due to the election of an able PM, but our country has too many problems… this is one problem we can reduce at the Janta level… lets do so 🙂

  • I am not a brahmin.
    But I admire and support brahmins whole heartedly.
    Our reservation system needs too be revised.
    Ideally it should be cancelled.
    Ambedkar proposed reservations only for ten years.
    Brahmin baiting is one of the worst crimes.

    I think we need to declare all forward castes as scheduled
    castes. A rotation system should be introduced,
    where in forward castes are given the benefits of
    Scheduled Castes for the next 30 years. The schecduled
    castes will be considered as forward castes during the same period.
    This rotation should go on changing once in 30 years, a generation time.
    Forward to S.C; S.C to OC; BC to ST; ST to BC.

    This should be called Social Justice!

  • This article is biased one , and one about Brahmin caste, not about practicing Brahmin. Author has cleverly talked about Brahmins prior to independence, what about post indepence, what abour rich corporate Brahmins. Please stop propagating this false stuff. If you really want to talk about Brahmin, talk about the plight of people who practices it. I respect all people who work towards protecting hinduism, but not all brahmins by birth. People who don’t practice, always behave like they are near to god compared to others in real life.

  • To all.. As in the article there are men who refused to convert and sacrificed..the teachings of Hinduism is more valuable and above than life. “This is the truth, simple Truth”
    Hinduism will never seize to exists. It has survived many and many challenges and still persists and amuses. When my 11 year old son wants to read all available versions of Mahabharatha, Iam proud very proud and will go to any lengths to bring him one.. Long live this culture .. culture of humanity, intellect and wisdom.

  • Brahmins are themselves responsible for their present situation. Historically, they preferred not to do menial jobs as they were not shudras. The were never good at business like the Vaishyas and were generally peace loving people hence did not get along with the kshatriyas. They were good managers and preferred to be working for someone than be leaders. Due to this docile nature, they have been pushed back in society. There really is no point in blaming anyone but ourselves. But, even now, there is always a certain amount of arrogance displayed by Brahmins at places of worship and religious events which is not a good thing. Though I am a Brahmin, my lifestyle is very “Un-Brahmin” like !! Frankly, calling myself a Brahmin has not given me any added advantage in life. It would be a good for the Brahmin community if it gets merged with any other community so that, at least in India we can expect some reservations in some sector and stop complaining about a lost community !!

  • The article is not very well researched but sentiments come across..
    I would like to make following comments on some points raised.

    “We should stop ourselves calling Brahmins”
    I have no problem with this. The question is; is the Indian government and the constitution and the “Reservation Bill” going to stop from identifying you as a Brahmin? Are all people of India going to get equal access to education and jobs regardless of the caste system they belong to? The answer is “No”. Reservation in education and jobs has meant that, “Brahmins” and “Other Upper Caste” communities do not get any help from the government. The “Other Upper Castes” have not suffered as much as the Brahmins because they are from Business or Landowning castes and generally financially better off. Don’t forget, the reservation system has been in force for a long time now, that means that, help is continually being provided to people who are now financially well off.
    Couple of examples from personal experience:
    1: In Gujarat, in government schools, every month, students from low caste (not necessarily poor), would be given around 200 rupees, while the real poor students in ragtag clothes would not get a rupee (because of their higher caste).
    2. A temple in my home town, you will see a group of elderly women sitting by the temple gates looking after the footwear (taken off by people going inside the temple), for some money. You will be surprised to know that, these women are from Brahmin families, widows, who have no other family and no other income. The government will not help them because of their caste.
    So to your suggestion , “We should stop ourselves calling Brahmins”, I would say to every Brahmin, be proud to identify yourself as Brahmin and don’t give up your identity because that is all you will have in modern India, where being of a lower caste pays dividends.

    Let’s hope this new government will treat everyone equally….

    Second point,
    Janoi “sacred thread”, this was meant to be worn by all Hindus, for Brahmins it became compulsory. Janoi was to identify those who had been baptised into Hindu religion. Anyone, without the Janoi is considered to be a “Sudra”. This is why, before a Hindu marriage, first part of “Pooja” is to baptise the couple (most people are not aware of this), since Hindu marriage ceremony is for people baptised into Hindu religion.
    Unmarried man wears Janoi of 3 threads and married man wears Janoi of 6 threads, (one for him and one for his wife).

    Third Point
    “Brahmins controlling the entry to the temple”
    What made Brahmins weak? Their dependence on the society for food and finance. They were forced and still are forced to reflect the attitude of the community they depend on. They have no power, rather than being in charge of dharma they merely carry out religious ceremonies as a job. The temples are not owned by Brahmins, generally they are caretakers, carrying out the will of their masters who are not Brahmins.

    The main reason, Islam and Christianity has flourished is because of financial independence of the religious bodies and priest. Muslims and Christians are required to donate to institution which in turn is able to pay their Priests and Mullahs. It’s like a corporate setup with a well defined hierarchy and pay structure. Financial independence means that these religions have been able to enforce the religion on their communities; Also, flex their muscles politically. Send out missionaries, expand the market, anyone who does not comply will be ex-communicated or even killed.

    On one hand Hindus do not want to make financial sacrifice like other communities (apart from individuals donating to some well known temples, out of greed of even a bigger reward from gods) and on the other hand, want Brahmins to carry out the religious ceremonies (for free if possible). How is a Brahmin suppose to feed himself, send his kids to school? Brahmins have no clout due to their financial dependence on the local communities. In turn, Hindus have no clout in India as they are not unified and there is no “one” voice.

    • Well said but i didn’t understand why other caste people proudly says about their caste then why don’t we (Brahmins), yea i totally agree with you except this

    • That is a very vacuous way to put it. The western universalism which many people refer to as the epitome of women’s rights never allowed them to vote until recently. India has provided the rights of women’s suffrage since its conception. Oppression of women is not a regional phenomena but a world phenomena. Also, which culture in this world has ever given god the personification of a woman ??

  • See agreed that you were poor and don’t blame you people for any thing in the past. But now its high time to mix with other people. What I see is still many brahmins don’t mix. If you stay near brahmins house they never come forward to talk they don’t socialize with other people. That shows u think great about yourself. Well that’s a fact may be its bitter for you. This is the main reason people assume many diffrent things. Reach out to people

    • There are all kinds of people in the community, some mix some don’t regardless of their caste. To generalise like this is absolute naive.

  • Hats off to the author. I am a Brahmin and proud to be a Brahmin but at the same time no as forgiving and polite as my ancestors. It is our fault of accepting what ever comes our way. We don’t have to harm anyone else but don’t let anyone harm us. Unity is important for strength.

  • All that is written in the article is true. One more addition. Hindu religion states (in Maha Bharata) Thar it better to be dead than to be beggar. However by religion only Brahmin is authorised to beg. Otherwise begging is a sin . As per Bhagwat Gita A person who begs is of the lowest “yoni” as his soul is defeated. It s sad in Maha- Bharata that you can sell any thing to survive but when you sell your soul you are dead in real sense of the term and it is as bad a sin as “Brahman Hattya” which is the highest form of sin for which there is no pardon.. Why only a Brahmin is allowed to beg? The reason is he has the highest power ” The Power of Knowledge (Dnyan)” If any other power is added to it, such as Political power or money power the person can cause a disaster to the Society especially he has Rajo Gun predominantly in him like a Kshatriya. That is the reason a Brahmin is not supposed to rule as a king as he wields ultimate power The Power of Knowledge .

  • Not for boasting but for knowledge of those who receive the aids, help, financial help and what not.
    Born in a poor family studied on scholarship – left study for five years and worked in a spareparts shop for subsistence of a family of 5 brothers 1 sister and parents – did priest work also – after lapse of 5 years started study and completed Honours BA, M.Com, LLM, CAIIB (after joining a bank as a steno typist) -reached top level official cadre including visiting faculty – now visiting faculty at a university teaching export import management and aritmatic at the age of 75 – BRAHMINS though beggers never beg but cut the ways to go ahead – It is unfortunate that we live in a country which has constitution saying equal opportunity but in practice nothin but reservation – annuity to lezies – God save this country from so called rulers –

  • any article should be critically examined,to do so one has to view this article through charvakas,shivagi,ambedkars angle.I am really sorry for the poor brahmins.please go through richard dawkins the god dellusion on you tube ,we will come to know everybodies mistake.atleast

  • I did enjoy the article thoroughly. What qualifies to be a brahmana or brahmin? Am I a brahmin just because I am born to a Brahmin parents? My parents were not priests, so how do they qualify as Brahmins? They were bankers.
    Also in the present day non-priest “Brahmins” have no reason to control their emotions/temperment. Hence, there should be no offense in consuming non-vegetarian food or veggies like Onion/Garlic. Food is by choice and does not dictate a person’s philosophy.

  • The whole concept of Brahmin bashing caught up when the english realised that they could not make any headway in promoting their religion as the Brahmins were the guiding force to the Hindus in India. They demeaned them and ensured that the others did not approach the Brahmins for proper guidance and then they started brainwashing the gullible people of the country, which is being carried forward by our modern politician in their quest for their chairs.

    • Nice Article .Most of Brahmin are living in this country without knowing our values.Hope after reading this will be an eye opener for all Brahmins.

  • Excellent article.You have brought the facts to society regarding Brahmins.
    Regarding cast system I have firm opinion that it was not the creation of Brahmin.Vedas, Geeta, puranas tell that it is from very begining.I have no knowledge or proof that it has been created by Brahmin.More reasearch is required to be done for the origin of caste system in Hindu religon.

    Many Many thanks for writting excellent article.

  • After reading this article i personally feel that what that has told is 100% true, i am a basic brahmin guy, even though i have secured very good marks there is not even 1% support from the govt. My mom doing a catering and father is travel agent, we are very ordinary middle class. All due to this caste system. Some body has to stop is.



  • In our society every one feels that their caste is oppressed by other caste. This is all due to selfishness and lack of generousness. No one bothers about the society. our society is built up different religions and castes. So every one should think about society and not about caste and religion

  • Brahmin is a sacred community. The world does not recognize the contribution of Brahmins. There will be future where we brahmins get our due.

  • Excellent article. Wonderful observations shared by a lot of us. In these discussions we forgot to note that the advt, every student dot com is leading to a christian site 🙂 we should stop depending on any advt.

  • Well written article, learned a lot from this article. I always had this argument with my friends that If brahmins were so powerful, oppressive and conniving as modern historians paint them, then how come, that no human incarnation of God like Rama, Krishna, Mahavira and Buddha is Brahmin?

  • I believe basically the caste system is like this. Brahamins full focus on education/Poojas. Farmers full focus on plants/food production, Kshathriyas full focus on ruling the country and Vaisiyas will do the marketing.. So Everybody is doing their own activities, India was rich because each communicay focuses on one thing.. Since education should be used in properway, education was only with Brahmins.and they have to follow certain living rules.